this is a generation that has more educational, personal and national debt than any other generation in history so they're just doing a cost calculation and saying it's not worth it. >> is some of this, by the way, your generation is better at computers and technology than my generation sure is. i'm a baby boom guy. is it because the website was so bad, so poorly designed and the president kind of lied about it? is that part of the issue here? just like uncool website? >> well, i don't think the president did himself any favors when he compared it to websites that millennials use every day like kayak and other websites where younger voters typically are because those websites work. those websites are clean. the interface doesn't crash and i think that it certainly didn't help from a cosmetic standpoint the president's argument that health care would be beneficial to everyone and would be working on time. >> all right. alex, another question. i'm trying to understand this whole issue. i mean, the guy's just got real bad numbers among one of his key constituencies which tells me there'